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Present here is a history of the first few weeks of the Arena of the Ages fights! This is only an archive. These votes have all closed a long time ago, so don't bother voting.

Flea vs. Slash[edit source]

Week 11
First Contestant Winner! ??? Second Contestant
Flea vs. Slash
Winner! ??? The cross-dresser versus the wanna-be swordsman purple dude. Which one is moar bizarre?

...DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK TO ADJUST THESE IMAGES TO EACH OTHER?!

Winner! ???
Voting Line

Votes for Fleaz[edit source]

  1. I'm no homo, but Flea is the model of a chick, no matter if this is a guy or not. Plus, she has so many ways of distraction, like Confuse, and such. --Mega Sean 45 18:56, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Flea makes quite the entrance, and catches you off guard by using nice status attacks. Plus, when you face her, one of your party members has no MP.--Salnax 23:10, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
  3. my vote belongs to Flea --Eliskuya2 01:26, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
  4. I gotta go for Flea. I mean, she's the third best user of MAGIC!!!!!!!!!(Magus/Spekkio)Vivi Zidane02 20:25, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Votes for Slashez[edit source]

  1. I can tell he's a guy. --—SilverCrono[T/C] 22:39, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
  2. I've always like Slash more than Flea. Especially Super Slash! Zeypher 06:51, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
  3. He's Purple...I do like that color. Sonicboom112 11:17, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Slash all the way or should I say Sir Slush!!! Hahahaha - Moebius06 08:56, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
  5. Slash has the creepiest lips in history. Ughh... Just thinking of th- *barfs* Kupohunter 16:39, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
  6. Slash's fight was at least sorta fun. Bstewart2954 23:25, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
  7. Because Slash dresses and acts like a male. -bl00 d00d
  8. Flea creeps me out with the whole shape shifting, gender crossing thing. Slash has a nice sword. -Simsam
  9. Flea may be one the funniest villians in the series but in a fight he only has illusions and status spells to combat with. Slash on the other hand is truely a hard boss if you are not prepared and he absolutely could keep any swordsman on his toes with his devastating sword techniques.--Marx Wraith 00:25, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Wi-Fi Center[edit source]

Enjoy, peoples!! :D --—SilverCrono[T/C] 22:39, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

What happen to the niffy edit buttons for voting instead of editing the whole section? Or maybe it's just a New Wikia Skin thing? Zeypher 06:51, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah it's a new skin thing. If you are a new skin user, you may need to edit the whole section. You can always switch to monobook as your prefer skin in preferences. Zeypher 07:08, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Magus vs. Schala[edit source]

Week 10
First Contestant Winner! SCHALA!!! Second Contestant
Magus vs. Schala
Winner! SCHALA!!! Most likely the most epic fight we've ever had. Enjoy. Winner! SCHALA!!
Voting Line

Votes for Magus[edit source]

  1. Gotta vote for my boy, Magus! Zeypher 07:25, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
  2. I'm gonna have to go with Magus here. Schala was really threatening at points, but only due to her forced team-up with a giant space flea.--Salnax 23:30, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Not gonna lie, this one was tough. --Moocowisi 15:01, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Votes for Schala[edit source]

  1. To vote against the landslide I predict. --Ag (Silver) 107.8682 20:48, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
  2. C'mon! She's the freakin' Dream Devourer that beat up Magus! Kupohunter 10:22, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
  3. She is just plain cool. I like Magus a little more and think he is MUCH stronger, but..... Schala owns!Jack678 23:10, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Theme song again. Sol Vent 17:46, September 9, 2010 (UTC)


Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Wi-Fi Center[edit source]

Enjoy. --Ag (Silver) 107.8682 20:48, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

A tie... tough bout indeed! Zeypher 15:08, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's time for a new fight, SC. Zeypher 12:26, September 15, 2010 (UTC)


Chrono Trigger vs. Chrono Cross vs. Radical Dreamers[edit source]

Chrono Trigger

Chrono Cross

Radical Dreamers: Nusumenai Hōseki

Winner!!
CHRONO TRIGGER
The three games. I made them three for teh lulz. That'll be $5

Votes for Trigger[edit source]

  1. The only one I've played. Oh, and REJOICE THE EPIC 3 WAY FIGHT 8D --SilverCrono (Talk | contribs) 19:47, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
  2. The epic game duel! I'm going with Chrono Trigger DS version or SNES version! I just found it so much FUN!! First game and very few game I've tried to get all the endings. :) Zeypher 09:50, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Though I do pity that the others shan't get very many votes, I love CT. Only one I've played, and tied as fav RPG evar along with FF IX. Kupohunter 21:56, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Votes for Cross[edit source]

  1. I can't explain why I like it better. I just do. Sol Vent 00:54, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
  2. With the possible exception of The World Ends with You, Chrono Cross is the greatest game I've ever played. --Moocowisi 01:36, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Votes for Dreamers[edit source]

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Wi-fi Center[edit source]

I think this might be better without Radical Dreamers. I didn't find that one as enjoyable as the other two. And it was never released in the States, was it? If only they remade to something worth playing instead of that text-based game they've released.... just saying. Zeypher 12:30, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

They kinda did. It was called "Chrono Cross." Sol Vent 16:41, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yes Kinda... more like they revamp to something different with related characters and story. But when you look at it, it is really different from one another. Zeypher 17:09, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but "something worth playing instead of that text-based game" would probably be pretty different from Radical Dreamers, anyway. Though RD's "worth-playingness" is up for debate. I haven't played it, myself. Sol Vent 16:28, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I've attempted it, but it wasn't my cup of tea... :) Zeypher 16:30, August 26, 2010 (UTC)


Chrono Crisis vs. Crimson Echoes[edit source]

Week 8
First Contestant Winner! CRIMSON ECHOES Second Contestant
Chrono Crisis vs. Crimson Echoes
Winner! CRIMSON ECHOES The two fan games!! Which is better? Winner! CRIMSON ECHOES
Voting Line

Votes for Crisis[edit source]

  1. Cooler logo. --SilverCrono (Talk | contribs) 19:26, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Votes for Echoes[edit source]

1. I enjoy some of the engines used in Crisis but this fanmade game is so much more deeper and helps link both CT and CC. So I'm voting for Crimson Echoes. :D Zeypher 21:19, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

2. I've never played either, but after watching gameplay videos of both, I'd rather play crimson echoes. It seems to not only be a direct sequel, but also uses a lot of the same things. Kupohunter 23:59, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

3. I've watched every single youtube video of this unfinished game, and it feels to me like a legitimate piece of the Chrono franchise. A lot of love and effort went into it. Sol Vent 02:23, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

4. This game feels like a bridge between Trigger and Cross, and as Sol Vent said, like a true game. Its too bad that Square shut it down, I would have loved to see it 100%. - Sonicboom112

5. Crimson Echoes wins because it feels like Chrono Trigger Part II. That and the idea of changing already-established timelines not once but several times during the narrative is an awesome storytelling device.-KenoSarawa(T|B|C)~21:09, August 18, 2010 (UTC)~


Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Wi-Fi Center[edit source]

Enjoy. --SilverCrono (Talk | contribs) 19:26, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately I haven't played either but I do use youtube. Hopefully I don't make stupid arguments that aren't really true... Kupohunter 00:03, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Worry not, Kupohunter. Neither of these games can be played at all due to... legal stuff. So the youtube videos are all we've got. However, I'm not sure about this, but I believe Chrono Crisis is being reworked as an original game. So there's hope for that. Sol Vent 02:31, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I read that too, but there still haven't been much new news about it. Sadly... :( Zeypher 09:38, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

I see a landslide! Time for a new fight! ^_^ Zeypher 09:38, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Dream Devourer vs. Lavos[edit source]

Week 7
First Contestant Winner! LAVOS Second Contestant
Dream Devourer vs. Lavos
The big bosses! Who would you rather meet in a dark alley?
Voting Line

Votes for Dream Devourer[edit source]

  1. Meh. Cooler sprite. --SilverCrono (Talk | contribs) 16:06, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
  2. I'm considering this a vote for Schala... and her theme song. Because I can. Sol Vent 23:19, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
  3. This dangerous guy should be the winner! The players in Chrono Trigger were not able to defeat it, but they were able to defeat Lavos. This guy all the way, brahs! KNOW ABOUT IT! --Mega Sean 45 13:57, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
  4. I vote for (no doubt) the dream devourer. I mean common, look at that beast. Magus beat Lavos alone then came to fight the Dream Devourer. The Dream Devourer is much stronger.Jack678 16:01, August 18, 2010 (UTC) 16:01, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Votes for Lavos[edit source]

  1. From playing the DS version, you get the feeling that the Dream Devourer has completely lost its mind, which is why it is merely acting as an avatar for Schala's emotions. Lavos, on the other hand, is malevolent, unfeeling, and infinitely dark. It actually messes with the player's mind, making you wonder how much it was aware of your actions throughout the game. And you actually get the opportunity to feel truly terrified at its presence, especially since it takes so long for the bloody thing to die!-KenoSarawa(T|B|C)~16:37, August 2, 2010 (UTC)~
  2. Whatever, I just think that Lavos has better music, and though I don't think a boss fight should be easy, I find Lavos much easier than the omnipotent Dream Devourer. kuPoHunTer 19:57, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Okay I'm going with Lavos because it is the first boss/game I've ever beat so I hold a passionate attachment to this boss. :D Zeypher 15:25, August 4, 2010 (UTC)


Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Wi-Fi Center[edit source]

  1. I don't know if this is a good contest. The whole purpose of the Dream Devourer is to give you a tie-in to the last boss of Chrono Cross.-KenoSarawa(T|B|C)~18:25, August 2, 2010 (UTC)~
You can always suggest your own fights here if you haven't already, KenoSarawa. Zeypher 07:19, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Nobuo Uematsu vs. Yasunori Mitsuda[edit source]

Week 6
First Contestant Winner! Mistuda! Second Contestant
File:Yasunori.jpg File:Yasunori.jpg
Nobou Uetmatsu vs. Yasunori Mitsuda
The two music dudes! Who made better tracks?
Voting Line

Votes for Uetmatsu[edit source]

  1. FOR TEH FINAL FANTASY OLOS --SilverCrono (Talk | contribs) 23:34, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Votes for Mitsuda[edit source]

  1. To Far Away Times. That is all. Sol Vent 17:49, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Alright, I've decided to go with Mitsuda! I mean his two soundtrack were EPIC! Still love Uematsu for his work with FF, but Mitsuda has got Chrono! Zeypher 12:38, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
  3. I like Uematsu a lot! But because Uematsu only did like 3 songs for Chrono Trigger and all of them are iffy, I'm going with Mitsuda. Sorry Nobuo, if it was outside of this context, you would win. kuPoHunTer 12:06, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Uematsu will always hold a special place for his work on the FF series. But, Mitsuda composed an absolutely incredible soundtrack for Chrono Trigger and then surpassed that with the astounding Chrono Cross soundtrack. Seriously, start from ~Scars of Time~ and start listening. The song begins with a lonely flute and string duet with incidental bit-parts reminiscent of CT's music, but then breaks into an absolutely epic mix of guitar-and-drum cadence with grandiose orchestral counterpoint with a heart-thumping violin solo, setting the stage for the rest of CC's amazing music. Vote to Mitsuda! --KenoSarawa (Talk|Contribs) 18:54, August 1, 2010 (UTC)


Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Wi-Fi Center[edit source]

Oh I can't decide... I would Nobuo Uematsu but this is about the Chrono tracks... since Nobuo only did like 10 of the tracks, I'm leading on Yasunori. I need to think of it somemore.Zeypher 09:27, July 26, 2010 (UTC)


Masa & Mune vs. Golem Overlord[edit source]

Week 5
First Contestant Winner! Masa & Mune! Second Contestant
Golem Overlord vs. Masa & Mune
The battle of the two bosses! They each... er... Well, I don't know much about them. So sue me! Except not really.
Voting Line

Votes for Golem[edit source]

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Votes for Masa & Mune[edit source]

  1. Hehe awesome! Zeypher 06:07, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Masa & Mune are as powerful as a rushing wind: Hurricane, Vacuum Wave, Wind Slash. The only wind that the Golem has is when it belches. 'Nuff said. --KenoSarawa (Talk|Contribs) 18:05, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Can't vote against the wind. Sol Vent 17:31, July 20, 2010 (UTC)


Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. Goldem Overlord who? 212.183.140.52 19:58, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Wi-Fi Center[edit source]


Cyrus vs. Dario[edit source]

Week 4
First Contestant Winner! Cyrus! Second Contestant
Cyrus vs. Dario
The wielders of the Masamune! Who weild it the best!? What are you waiting for? Get voting!
Voting Line

Votes for Cyrus[edit source]

  1. Because he is Cyrus that says everything--Xabryn 01:36, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Meh. --SilverCrono (Talk | contribs) 01:47, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Wow voting time already! I have to go with Cyrus! :D Zeypher 07:29, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Just Cyrus. Miley Cyus sucks, but this Cyrus is cool. -Bluestripe the Wild

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. He's the best with masemune. No hands down! 212.183.140.48 12:00, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Votes for Dario[edit source]

  1. So awesome. --Moocowisi 01:36, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Wow, really? I thought he would have more votes because he was one of the scariest optional bosses for this game. Evil Masamune -at least to me- is definitely more threatening than the first iteration. Well, here's my support for Dario. :) Sake neko 17:49, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Wi-Fi Center[edit source]

Uhh, Dario isn't dead. --Moocowisi 01:36, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. Sorry... never played CC, don't know. :/ --SilverCrono (Talk | contribs) 01:47, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't we say that both are wielders of the masamune?--Xabryn 01:51, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Dario is Cyrus's "parallel" in Chrono Cross. --Moocowisi 01:52, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Last day! Get voting for your favorite if you haven't already! Zeypher 09:36, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Serge vs. Lynx[edit source]

Week 3
First Contestant Winner! Lynx! Second Contestant
Serge vs. Lynx
The two dudes you control! I, Spekkio, have never actually played Chrono Cross, but I DO know that these two are related somehow! So vote on who's best!
Voting Line

Votes for Serge[edit source]

  1. Serge is my fave. Plus he's weapons look unique and deadly! Zeypher 06:17, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
  2. This was a hard choice for me, but I'm going with Serge, Wielder of the Mastermune, Vanquisher of FATE, Traveler of Dimensions, Savior of Schala! --Moocowisi 02:25, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Votes for Lynx[edit source]

  1. I don't really know any of this characters but for what I know about them I would like more of Serge, yet Lynx uses a scythe and I usually like characters that use scythes(the only excepton till now s Marluxia from KH, it's not like I hate him he just isn't my fav)--Xabryn 02:35, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
  2. He may have been programmed in a sense to do what he did, but I sure liked what he did. He was one of the characters in the game that made me actually want to finish Chrono Cross and replay it. I'm still wondering he did to Lucca though. Sake neko 17:04, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
  3. He uses a scythe. That makes him 200% more awesome than Surge.BlackSoulBlade 10:17, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Wi-Fi Center[edit source]

  1. A CC fight for once. there was much rejoicing. --Crono's Descendant 04:20, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
I know huh?! We need to attract the CC fans as well. :D Zeypher 06:18, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
Oh God, I have no idea who to vote for. I'll be back when I make up my mind ^^; --Moocowisi 16:03, June 26, 2010 (UTC)


Lucca vs. Marle[edit source]

Week 2
First Contestant TIE Second Contestant
Lucca vs. Marle
The two femme fatals of the original Chrono Trigger! Who is better? Who is hotter? Well, vote and find out!
Voting Line

Votes for Lucca[edit source]

  1. I vote for lucca Eliskuya2 14:58, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
  2. She and Magus are my fav characters--Xabryn 20:17, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Lucca. Just because. Time Trigger 20:39 June 22, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Lucca. She can use fire magic, napalms, and repair Robo. FTW. (For the Win) --Lord BluestripeEulaliiiiiiaaa! 13:48, June 24, 2010 (UTC)
  5. Marle would trade her royalty for Lucca's genius in a heartbeat. Sol Vent 21:48, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. Smart is sexy. 212.183.140.21 05:27, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Votes for Marle[edit source]

  1. Voting for Marle! Lucca is awesome, but I like Marle more. Zeypher 19:52, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
  2. I'm still not very far in Trigger, but I've been using Marle a lot more. Her healing tech is pretty useful. --Moocowisi 01:10, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
  3. I barely used any of these (my party was Crono/Ayla/Magus), but I like Marle better. Crono's Descendant 06:16, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
  4. I like the two but Marle's better!She's one of the pers. that can use cure magics. FlareHoly 14:32, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
  5. I'm going to have to go with beauty over brains lol :D Darkside of the Moon 18:56, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. How can you resist her cute giggles? 85.210.190.162 19:08, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Wi-Fi Center[edit source]

I think our next fight should be CC characters. Can't always be CT... I'm not really familar with CC though, so for those who do suggest it here!

Very little votes this week. Get your votes in if you haven't already. You have until Friday (or Saturday if Spekkio isn't sleeping again) Zeypher 09:09, June 23, 2010 (UTC).

It's tie so far... get your votes in (if you haven't already) so your favorite will win!! Zeypher 14:47, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

OH STILL A TIE! Get your votes in! LAST DAY! Zeypher 07:28, June 25, 2010 (UTC)


Crono vs. Magus[edit source]

Week 1
First Contestant Winner! Crono! Second Contestant
Magus vs. Crono
It's the fight of the ages! Crono vs. Magus! Light vs. Shadow! Who would you vote to be the last one standing out from the chaos?
Voting Line

Votes for Magus[edit source]

  1. I got to go for Mr. Epic Win, Magus. Zeypher 17:03, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Based on their abilities demonstrated in the game, Crono would win hands down. But, if Magus has no silly limitations on him, he might have a chance against Crono's main character powers. Heck, maybe his sister might give him a hand or something. He can always teleport and study his opponent before the final fight too, so he might have an extra edge with that. Well, Magus wins with his attitude and sprite animations if nothing else. :) Sake neko 20:55, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
  3. I do love some good evil! Auror the magical Andrachome

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. For the win... 85.210.180.46 19:12, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Magus all the way! 213.52.216.196 20:29, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Votes for Crono[edit source]

  1. Complete bad@$$. Crono's Descendant 17:00, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Look, I love Magus as much as the next guy. However, both of them have similarly powerful ultimate attacks, Crono is by far the better physical fighter, and if Magus were so tough, how could he be defeated in a one on one fight with Frog?--Salnax 18:57, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Crono was always my favorite hero. Magus is cool, but like the first comment said... he is a bad@$$. Darkside of the Moon 20:46, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Lol, I just randomly came to the wiki and found that this arena just opened! I'm not too far in Trigger, though, so I'll have to go with Crono. --Moocow 'isi' 19:59, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
  5. I love Crono and how he listens instead of talks. -Time Trigger
  6. Crono is the leading man, i have to vote for someone as awesome as him, Magus's scythe is badass tough. D.Dark.
  7. Crono is the goodguy, and ing RPGs the goodguys always win. Nothing personal Magus!--Ross Vs. Boyd....Who'd win??? 22:54, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Wi-Fi Center[edit source]

Well, this is the first fight. Depending on how many people vote and how many people we have, this may or may not last a week. Meh. Crono's Descendant 23:46, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah... well it's all the wiki so its out there, and we can leave it up for a month if we have to, until we get more people to vote. Zeypher 07:48, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
I personally think that Crono would win this if it by tech. I mean his Lumaire tech is off the chain. Then again, Magus Dark Matter is just as powerful. I think Magus should have his own game. Not sure if Square would do that though. Zeypher 09:55, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Salnax brought up a good point, but my counter to that is, Magus wasn't at his fullest potential when he went against Frog. But after he reaches his fullest potential, he can squash that Frog to a pulp. :D Zeypher 19:42, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Frog wasn't at his best either. He had been attacked from behind by Dalton and had to fight his way out of the Blackbird. Magus, meanwhile, spent that period of time chilling and recovering.--Salnax 20:35, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
Ah... well... touché. I have no comeback for that. Thanks for the taking the time to vote. This is only the second day of the Arena for the Ages, so if you know anybody interesting in participating. Let them know about this page. The more the merrier... Zeypher 20:43, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Wow it's a tie so far.. say SilverCrono, how are we going to dispute ties anyway??? Zeypher 09:47, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Well, ties would be ties. No winner, no loser. Crono's Descendant 14:49, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
Well, if it does end up a tie! We will have a rematch when we get more active users. :) 14:49, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Crap, where are all the Magus fans??? Zeypher 18:45, June 15, 2010 (UTC) I hope everyone who wanted to vote did, I'm going to change this by Saturday at the earliest. Vote when you can guys! Crono's Descendant 02:28, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ross Vs. Boyd? Are those even Chrono series characters Red 11? Zeypher 17:03, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


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