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Staying
Moving - SEIWA
- —SilverCrono[T/C] 02:37, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Zeypher 17:17, January 22, 2011 (UTC)
- Kjam (talk) 20:10, January 22, 2011 (UTC)
Moving - Wikki or ShoutWiki
Comments
The vote will close by Sunday, January 23, 2011. By this time, I will check out the most favorable option and get us started on moving. Please and thank you, and leave any comments and queries below. --—SilverCrono[T/C] 02:37, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Wow trying to get this done as soon as possible. But yeah, I haven't been very active in many of my wikis to include this one. If we do move, I won't be as active with the switch over as you may like. I really don't care if we move or not as I don't see many other active users in this wiki to begin with. So moving may attract other users as we will be affiliate with other well known wikis like Kingdom Hearts. Zeypher 17:16, January 22, 2011 (UTC)
- well thats true Zey, and I don't want meet up with some old faces on KH wikia. I love this place. its like a place called homebase right but I argee with you on that part my friend --Eliskuya2 19:18, January 22, 2011 (UTC)
Okay. I know its been a while, but SEIWA is finally starting up. Check out the current (under construction) website here. Discussion about the future of SEIWA, rules, and possible candidates is happening almost daily since about two days ago, and I'm a constant contender. It happens in the #SEIWA channel at freenode IRC, which can be accessed here. Come on to help out, and I've been talking to a guy who said he might be able to move us! He said he wouldn't be able to start it for about a week or two, and by that time, I'll talk to him to see if we can get a specific domain name or something. Come to the channel or let me know here if you have any questions, concerns, or requests for domain names, and I'll do my best to keep you guys posted. Thanks for reading! --—SilverCrono[T/C] 01:41, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
After long and tedious editing, the SEIWA team posted their mission statement and declaration of independence on the SEIWA website. Find it [here. Whether new to the Chrono Series and Square-Enix game or a seasoned veteran, you should check it out, see what's going on, and learn how you can help out! --Deyvid Petteys 20:30, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
[04:16:37] <Prodi> (SilverCrono): spoken to a few people about moving a wiki off wikia [04:16:53] <SilverCrono> ya? [04:16:58] <Prodi> it seems that the database dump only contains the pages [04:17:04] <Prodi> images all have to be done manually [04:17:13] <Prodi> i have a bot I u sed to use to transfer images before [04:17:22] <Prodi> going to take a look at that, fix it up, so it can all be done automatically [04:17:35] <Prodi> concensus has been reached that you guys are ready to move? [04:17:49] <Prodi> no dissenting opinions? [04:18:12] <SilverCrono> images have to be done manually? [04:18:17] <SilverCrono> if you can provide a bot, great [04:18:21] <SilverCrono> if not....agh [04:18:39] <SilverCrono> but once you give the word, I'll lock editing, we should be ready to go [04:19:42] <Prodi> kk [04:19:59] <Prodi> doubt it'll be this weekend, as I'm going all day paintballing on sunday :D [04:22:46] <Prodi> you tried clicking that "create export" a few weeks ago right? [04:22:52] <Prodi> do you know how long it took before the export was ready? [04:26:39] <SilverCrono> nope [04:26:57] <Prodi> k [04:27:13] <Prodi> what should the new hostname be? [04:29:55] <SilverCrono> chronopedia.net [04:30:01] <SilverCrono> or something relating to Chronopedia [04:30:23] <Prodi> have other moves from wikia stuck with the the same wiki name? [04:30:46] <Prodi> cause it'd mean a direct fight with wikia for the search engine ranking [04:31:06] <Prodi> might be better as ChronoWiki or something [04:32:35] <Prodi> i don't really know which one is better [04:32:39] <Prodi> anywayz, i gotta sleep [04:32:43] <Prodi> will chat tomorrow night [04:32:56] <SilverCrono> k
Yep, so lots of updates. Basically, the permanent SEIWA name is now here. And they have a forum (keep in mind it is heavily in progress) in which I am active - here. And as you can see from the IRC conversation I held last night, the move is almost ready. When Prod gives the ok, I'll have to lock editing for a while until he moves us. The reason behind this is that all wikis have a database that you can export (he asked me about this in the conversation), which you need to get all our articles to a new wiki-based, independent domain. The reason why I'll stop editing here is because with every edit, the database is behind. And we don't wanna re-do three pages of editing, do we? No, we don't. Crono is here to help ;)
There are about two forseeable problems, three actually. One is that, like Prod said, he might not be able to export our images. We'll pass that when we get there, because he said he might find a bot that can do them for us. The next problem is the length of the database lock. I'll stop editing, say, Monday, and hit the "create export" button on a page here that will update our database. With no editing, the database will be exactly what we have on the wiki, and this updated export might take a while to...well, update. So the editing lock might end up lasting for a week, maybe even longer. I don't know. All we really need for this is for you guys to trust me and don't edit (kind of weird advice for a wiki, eh?) Finally, we might not be able to get the domain I suggested, chronopedia.net . Just to be on the safe side, would you guys mind telling me (right here) any other names you'd be fine with?
Hope this helped, guys. Crono out. --—SilverCrono[T/C] 15:33, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
The links worked without the www. Actually, they don't work with them. Anyway, this is awesome. Chronopedia.net seems to be an appropriate name for me. Besides, I can't think of a better one at the moment. We could stay with something noticeably related to the Chrono Series like ChronoWiki.net (without the space). Or we could go with something more elaborate like tomeoftime.net - Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, Radical Dreamers database and free encyclopedia etc. Other synonyms to consider might be atlas, handbook, directory, guide, or bible --haha, a cult of all Chrono-related chrononess. Back on topic, compendium is an obvious no-no. Does Chrono have to be in the title? I suppose it would raise the Google search spot when Chrono Trigger is typed.
Regarding images, I keep archives of all images I upload, so if finding a bot becomes a problem, we still have backups. But we could always upload directly from the wiki. As painfully tedious as that would be, I'd be willing to do it in a last case scenario. Additionally, I can resist the temptation to edit. Honestly, I've been postponing my larger edits for this reason entirely, and I'll try to spread the word to other users as well.
Another concern: Are we locking pages to prevent editing? If so, I can help with that. Might lessen the work load for you. Keep us posted. :) --— Radical D (bother \ stalk) 16:34, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
For a page lock, I wouldn't lock all pages, that would take too long; simply no editing. All edits would be reverted, but presumably noted in some way, so we can implement them in the new wiki. Glad to have some support, and about the name; I would say yes, Chrono probably has to be in it somehow, but I like the idea of chronowiki.net, we could use that as a backup. Good to see some support :} --—SilverCrono[T/C] 18:01, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
Support - I can live with chronowiki.net. No problemo. Straight to the point, no bells or whistles. Unless anyone else has any suggestions, we should stick with it. Although I suppose I should bring up one thing though. Wasn't Chronopedia previously called Chrono Wiki? Would Wikia raise any concerns about that after the fork? P.S. I signed up at the forums :). Looking pretty snazzy over there, I must say. --— Radical D (bother \ stalk) 02:32, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, Chronopedia used to be Chrono Wiki. I haven't really thought about Central Wikia, and they haven't really noticed us yet, so I'd say its smooth sailing. One question, though; what will we do with the wiki after the move? --—SilverCrono[T/C] 02:35, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
Let it go to hell I'll probably drop in periodically to ensure vandals haven't taken over. Other than that, I suppose we could put the wiki up for adoption. Since the wiki is pretty desolate as far as editors goes, there really isn't someone I know that would be willing to become an admin or whatever and take care of it after the fork. Kingdom Hearts Wiki had people who wanted to stay and those people maintain it now, if I'm not mistaken. Wish we could do something like that. At any right, as long as I'm an admin, I'll still ensure that everything's okay here. I won't edit pages like I have been, though. All my work will be over at the new wiki. --— Radical D (bother \ stalk) 02:39, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
Letting it die was my idea :P But yeah, I agree with that. I just wish some more people were here to provide feedback >.> --—SilverCrono[T/C] 02:41, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
I know, right? It's funny because the past few days, some new people were editing pages and now, nothing. :/ If any of you are reading this (I know you're logging in, I can see it), feel free to comment! Don't be shy. ;) --— Radical D (bother \ stalk) 02:43, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
We should make the official cut-off date for edits this upcoming Monday. That way, other editors will have time to log on, read through this forum post, so they can prepare themselves. I'll start rollingback any edit I see on that day, just so you know. Should we rollback all talk page, user page, and user talk edits as well? Or should I simply "Undo" the edits so users can see it in the Wiki Activity feed as well? (Since anons view it in Oasis and not Monobook). That way, I could post a reason and they'd see why it was reverted? I have a feeling we'll end up locking pages because edit wars will explode. --— Radical D (bother \ stalk) 04:08, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
Don't really know what to say on that, but I've got another conversation that'll be worth hearing.
[23:15:34] <Prodi> (SilverCrono): was talking to the golden sun wiki guys [23:15:38] <SilverCrono> ya? [23:15:42] <Prodi> they kept the same name as before [23:15:45] <Prodi> or something like it [23:15:51] <Prodi> "golden sun universe" [23:15:55] <Prodi> try getting to their wiki [23:16:05] <SilverCrono> ? [23:16:27] <Prodi> if i told you about a wiki, how would you find it? [23:18:38] <Prodi> i'd google it [23:18:54] <SomeColorMage> Well, if you didn't give a URL, most people would Google it [23:19:13] <Prodi> strategywiki's #1 search term is "strategy wiki" [23:19:45] <Prodi> but when i search for golden sun universe [23:19:50] <Prodi> the main wikia shows up first [23:20:04] <Prodi> and then a few entries down the independent one shows up [23:20:36] <SomeColorMage> Which is a shame, as the Wikia one is quite literally dead [23:21:00] <Prodi> i think it might be better for chrono to pick a new name [23:21:07] <Prodi> rather than sticking to chronopedia [23:21:13] <Prodi> especially if the editors are on board [23:21:24] <SomeColorMage> Also, this is one case where [23:21:50] <SomeColorMage> Wikia is right, the "-pedia" titles are overdone and kinda tacky [23:22:02] <Prodi> :P [23:22:58] <SomeColorMage> Oh hey, Wikia's home page for once does not have any goddamn Glee on it [23:23:02] <Prodi> something like 8% of strategywiki's traffic is from direct usage (bookmarks etc) [23:24:34] <Prodi> (SilverCrono): i'd recommend picking a different name [23:30:25] <Prodi> anywayz, i'm off to bed soon [23:30:31] <Prodi> may want to discuss with the other editors [23:30:34] Prodi [~a@CPE0026f33339fe-CM0026f33339fa.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] is now known as Prod[a] [23:34:56] <SomeColorMage> I wonder how much updating content factors into Google's formula [23:36:34] <SomeColorMage> Not enough if GSU is still low on rankings compare to the Golden Sun Wikia [23:39:52] <SilverCrono> alright, I'm back [23:39:55] <SilverCrono> ...dammit [23:40:25] <Prod[a]> i'm still kinda around.... [23:40:33] <SilverCrono> oh, cool [23:40:34] <Prod[a]> wrapping some stuff up [23:40:36] <SilverCrono> okay [23:40:42] <SilverCrono> um... I'll see what we can come up with [23:40:53] <SilverCrono> any specific time frame for the move yet? [23:41:19] <Prod[a]> been trying to get in touch with one of the other guys who runs stuff on our end [23:41:26] <Prod[a]> he's in europe atm so a bit hard to reach XD [23:41:34] <SilverCrono> olos ok [23:41:42] <Prod[a]> give me a name, and i'll see if i can push it along [23:43:25] <SilverCrono> ok, uh... right now? or after wiki discussion? [23:43:32] <Prod[a]> whenever [23:43:38] <Prod[a]> email me at prod@abxy.org [23:43:49] <Prod[a]> i check that all the time [23:43:56] <Prod[a]> or if you see me around [23:43:58] <Prod[a]> whatever works for you [23:43:59] <SilverCrono> ok [23:44:20] <Prod[a]> but be warned, moving off wikia won't be that smooth :P [23:44:26] <SomeColorMage> If you're opening a wiki discussion, can I have a link so I can follow developments in what's going on? [23:44:27] <SilverCrono> I know << [23:44:27] <Prod[a]> will take a bit of time to get things cleaned up [23:45:05] <SilverCrono> my email is apmasta@ymail.com [23:45:11] <SilverCrono> SomeColorMage: http://chrono.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:New_Wiki [23:45:22] <SomeColorMage> Thank you
Sorry if its long. And Radical, um, I would say every page should be locked, and rollback every edit. We want everything to be as smooth as possible. If people read this (like they should be), there should be no problems. --—SilverCrono[T/C] 05:05, July 17, 2011 (UTC)